OOffice "back". LC (looking candidate)

Not that I have been hardly developing on that, but since I think I have all UI widgets I needed for OOffice from libwalter, I just played around adding some of the widgets.

It can be seen the toolbar and a splitter(from Project Conceptor) to separate those nice ShrinkView on the left I took from an opensourced BeNet. I am considering about removing the Format text controls from the toolbar and adding them to the ShrinkView ...

And this other one... running in Haiku ;)

OO.o & reflexions...

Well, well, as Tweak from South Park would say "oh that's way too much preassure".

So when I was at work I took note about all things I should comment.

First thing is since the GSoC is here I did not took the application further. Simply there is not so much time mentoring a student and go on with the application at the same time. Looking at the dates of the last post is before our GSoC adventure started. It does not mean I am not going to dedicate some hours to it... but certainly less as the GSoC has more priority.

About the name, well similarities with OpenOffice are just a coincidence :) Just BeIDE drops the binary at the beggining ad BeApp... and i had to choose a fast name...Office, and looking my real name you can guess the other part.
Although I want to change the name.

Anybody can have some of his questions answered by reading the blog. I am almost sure i am not going to finish this project, at least alone. It is a way to show the comunity "Hey guys... this in just some weekends... IS POSSIBLE!", Reading my previous post, my first milestone is really modest: Do as much as much as StyledEdit can. Become a Office replacement? becoming a Gobe replacement is more than what I expect. Even if Haiku got a new in osnews or i make some persons of the comunity feel happier or more convinced about the comunity they are in, thats also enough for me.

Yes the screenshots are in ZETA.... 1.1 concretelly, but is someone expecting this is gonna be a ZETA only app??

About Porting openOffice...
Well guys, I worked in yT...and most of you are aware yT was working in a port. So I already know the PAIN of trying a port of OO.org. A lot of time with it... persons... no results against 4 weekends and here I can show you something.
Believe me there are a couple of HUGE issues which makes technically impossible the port. Porting OO.org is a task that ... in Spain we say something like "I wish to nobody".
It is so a nasty task... that at least I wont use my free time for that. Instead of this I prefer doing what I do in my workplace, and dont code for Haiku/BeOS/ZETA at all. So i dont know how i can say it.... No I already tried... and i already failed. More clear... I dont feel capable if you want to hear it.

Add also the wished Native App, another Firefox crushing my nice BeOS(all respects to BeZilla team)? no please. Dont you prefer a maintenable Gobe than a buggy OOOO?
OSx took more than a year for a OS that has a BSD kernel... but Haiku hasnt a BSD kernel..
Just nightmares thinking about it.

Some more... Abiword & Sumit.

Cool because OOffice is already using some GUI components of Summit (really nice all of them) and I actually planned for a second milestone have both applications integrated...if the license does not forbid..
But first I want a complete "Office Development Framework" which would make easier the integration.... and trivial create a Presentation App, etc etc. So yes the plans would be make a complete Suite.

Abiword... I think is GPL and the O of OOffice at the moment does not mean OPEN at all. I dont want to have an obligation to keep the source opened, as less obligations as possible... real freedom... As i dont know yet where i am going to lead the project.

A question.. can you select a couple of cells in sumit and drop them in the Abiword to have a table in your document?

Native & integrated... translators... reuse... thats what I want...

At least our platform... is an unholy platform... we die and die and die again... only we, the BeOS lovers, will like it and use it... the others... just dont like or dont want... lets do it our way...

Well its late now, I will update the entry during the week with the possible comments.

Thanks all for the support and for the ones offered their code already!

OO update

Some days without a post, and i think 2 weekends passed since the last screenshot... so here is one showing the promised feature. You can have now colors size and different sizes. All with zoom features and.... with multitabs as Opera. I am trying to fix for myself a milestone. I guess it will be covering all that StyledEdit can do.

Finally i self-coded a first possible ToolBar class I hope someone can lead me to a more complete one coded around in some other project.
.. and still need the pictured button...

By the way, i am really excited with the Google Summer of code and the possibility of being a mentor. Congratulations to all!


 Color font & sizes

oh God, I never expected that working in avionics could arrive to be so bored. I do really need to code a bit! BTW I hope Haiku has luck with the Google Summer code :-)
Here are some screenshots again, they are 1 week old, so now it looks a bit better actually.
Then i will start to move a little bit classes and objects here and there to accomplish my first target whish is having a good "Office" Framework.
I came up with an idea which i have not seen in an Office suite...may i can show it up in the next post.
BTW I still am in the need of GUI stuff & widgets, as i said in some previous post. Some may realized in the screenshots that I am reusing some code from another projects, and this saved a lot of time. If someone know any class in bebits or open sourced proyect which i can take something to speed-up this...POST! I am not the kinda devs that prefers to code ALL by himself... OO REUSE! REUSE!!

 Colors, font&Style

OOffice quest ...

Well obviously there is such a lot of work to do. At the moment what i can see is that i DO really need some support classes. Most of the time i complain about BeOS Standard APi misses some GUI widgets that must be included in the API. ZETA is solving most of them and in the same way i hope Haiku does the same for the first release.
Examples are the listView column, a SpinButton, SplitPane, Those are the most i Miss. But in the OOffice project i am missing another ones, not really end user widgets those are.

• A nice pictured button
• A ToolBar Class
• Movable View

So the points will be browsing a bit around bebits or look in the OpenSource projects if i can save some time or efforts in this HUGE project. Well if you know where I can take references about this or in general about Office solution.... just post something.

Oh by the way i was not gonna talk about this without posting a new screenshot some more lines of code there.

Before around 1 year ago proposing myself abandoning the BeOS scene, the idea of an Office suite was rounding in my head. Cannot be such complicated with a good design, and the provided API... I said to myself... well and time and motivation would make the remaining 80%.

So I decided some days ago, lost somewhere in Spain, to use some days trying to answer myself if such words i said 1 year ago were possible or not.

Here is the result of such days, at the moment StyledEdit provides more than this App...
But as stated before there is the need of the 80% of time and motivation, and another of the things I said to myself was "you are not going to finish this man", which i am as convinced as that it is actually possible to code it.

Summarizing lets see how it shows up, and what can we do.

All feedback, help, coding help, or donation would be apreciated.